All five members of this Jewish family survived the World War II Nazi persecution in Holland, their home. Jewish refugees were trained in centers, by rote lessons, not to have ideas of their own or to be aware politically. The Nazi-Dutch government didn't allow Jews in restaurants or public schools, or to have money or jobs. They had to move out of their homes into ghettos or live underground without newspapers or radio. Later Gosschalk was imprisoned in a Nazi concentration camp in Holland but lived to see its evolution into a concentration camp for Dutch Nazis. In 1962 he settled in Charleston, S.C. "I cannot ever tell another person how bad it was; how we suffered from fear in those years. You can't express it."